¿Qué ha sucedido con los cursos "dual layer MOOC" de EDX, UT Arlington y la Fundación Gates? ¿Qué cosa es ahora la Educación Universitaria con Tecnología?
Los cursos "dual layer" constituyen una interesante evolución de los MOOC. De hecho puede decirse que junto con los nanodegrées y los entornos LPSS se perfilan como unas posibles formas emergentes de la futura educación universitaria que se consoliden como la nueva educación superior del siglo 21, de la nueva sociedad postindustrial, junto con otras opciones de educación abierta de rendimiento.
Buscando los últimos escritos de Siemens me encontré con este titulado significativamente Adios Ed Tech. Hola something else, con un contenido muy acentuado de ruptura con algo, e incluso como después veremos de despecho con el giro qu etomaba de deshumanización la educación tecnológica. Ese post aparecía en un espacio de TEKRI, el instituto de tecnología educativa de Athabasca, y reproducía otro post de elearnspace, en ese momento desaparecido. Ahora he comprobado que ese es el último post aparecido hasta este momento en el blog de elearnspace.
Does anyone know what happened to George Siemens and elearnspace? I can not access the posts, and I need some. Nor do
I understand the sense of this post. Is there something behind?https://tekri.athabascau.ca/aggregator/sources/6
Asked Stephen Downes, Grainne Conole, Donald Clark, David Wiley,...
Asked Stephen Downes, Grainne Conole, Donald Clark, David Wiley,...
I’ve been involved in educational technology since the
late 1990′s when I was at Red River College and involved in deploying the first
laptop program in Canada. Since that time, I’ve been involved in many
technology deployments in learning and in researching those deployments. Some have been
systems…
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Miguel Zapata-Ros En https://tekri.athabascau.ca/aggregator/sources/6 te cita y
manifiesta su agradecimiento.
Jolanda De Villiers Morkel I read somewhere that Athabasca University is
struggling to survive. How sad...Ver traducción
Jolanda De Villiers Morkel Miguel and Grainne Conole, I love this blogpost of George! It links very well
with my current research.Ver traducción
Donald Clark cMOOCs never took off and 'connectivism' proved
an impoverished theory of learning. Way off on adaptive learning - he doesn't
really understand what it is.Ver traducción
Miguel Zapata-Ros All that
we know, Donald. I was the
first to criticize connectivism in Spanish http://eprints.rclis.org/17463/.
But now the question is what happens?
Siemens was in Arlington, working on a model course "dual layer" with the Gates Foundationhttp://redesabiertas.blogspot.com.es/2014_09_01_archive.html andhttp://www.edugeekjournal.com/.../designing-a-dual-layer.../...
And that has disappeared along with elearnspace.
Does anyone know anything?
But now the question is what happens?
Siemens was in Arlington, working on a model course "dual layer" with the Gates Foundationhttp://redesabiertas.blogspot.com.es/2014_09_01_archive.html andhttp://www.edugeekjournal.com/.../designing-a-dual-layer.../...
And that has disappeared along with elearnspace.
Does anyone know anything?
Miguel Zapata-Ros I like to
see how it continues
http://redesabiertas.blogspot.com.es/.../la-evolucion-de...
http://redesabiertas.blogspot.com.es/.../la-evolucion-de...
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Stephen Downes If the
'connectivism is wrong' explanation is accurate, then why do I continue my work
and make progress in the space? I don't think that's it. There are more MOOCs
today than ever, there's still a lot of funding around them. The problem, if
there's really a problem, is that the concept was hijacked and monetized by the
big-money people.Ver traducción
Miguel Zapata-Ros Arlington
is a golden kidnapping, Stephen.
I would like to be kidnapped there.
But I think the seats are occupied. Emoticono smile
I would like to be kidnapped there.
But I think the seats are occupied. Emoticono smile
Miguel Zapata-Ros In
addition to the struggle of connectivism, someone knows what's going on with
"dual layer"?
Miguel Zapata-Ros He has
appeared elearnspace ¡¿?! and dual layerhttp://www.elearnspace.org/.../multiple-pathways.../
Miguel Zapata-Ros It is not
so simple, Donald. I hold the
following thesis: The MOOCs are a fishery, fishing talent at low cost. Without
investment in teachers, teaching aid, without infrastructure. To offer these
talents to technology companies, as highly skilled workforce but almost without
cost.
But the model requires refinement.
Thus MOOCs become: Nanodegrees courses and dual-layer (A layer is MOOC and other master).
In nanodgree get rid of fats.
With dual-layer recover participants to master (high cost).
I feel my English is translated with Google. And my text is very streamlined to make it a little legible.
But the model requires refinement.
Thus MOOCs become: Nanodegrees courses and dual-layer (A layer is MOOC and other master).
In nanodgree get rid of fats.
With dual-layer recover participants to master (high cost).
I feel my English is translated with Google. And my text is very streamlined to make it a little legible.
Antonio Dias Figueiredo I don’t
know about George Siemens’s current intellectual whereabouts, but I can only
agree with his statement “Adios Ed Tech. Hola something else”. In a
presentation I made at the University of São Paulo, last September, entitled
“ITC in Education: Beyond the ITC”, I also claimed that “ICT will only be fully
integrated in education when we stop talking about ITC” (slide 4).http://www.slideshare.net/.../tdic-e-educao-para-alm-das...Ver traducción
Miguel Zapata-Ros Possibly
the temporary disappearance of elearnspace is an accident. Or only some have
perceived.
But if we look at the production of Siemens, from its stay in Arlington, there are only two posts in elearnspace on "dual layer". And in general is very little compared with the previous .
Hence the question: what is behind the post "Adios Ed Tech. Hola something else"?...Ver más
But if we look at the production of Siemens, from its stay in Arlington, there are only two posts in elearnspace on "dual layer". And in general is very little compared with the previous .
Hence the question: what is behind the post "Adios Ed Tech. Hola something else"?...Ver más
Donald Clark Does it matter? The people who want to stop progress need to step
aside for the people doing the real work?Ver traducción
Miguel Zapata-Ros Obviously, no,
Donald. We can continue working.
But in this case there is much power concentrated. EDX, the University of Texas at Arlington and the Belinda and Bill Gates Foundation support "dual layer" courses. Define a trend. And my work is a necessary reference.
At least as I see it.. Emoticono smile
http://cursosabiertos.blogspot.com.es/.../introduccion-al...
But in this case there is much power concentrated. EDX, the University of Texas at Arlington and the Belinda and Bill Gates Foundation support "dual layer" courses. Define a trend. And my work is a necessary reference.
At least as I see it.. Emoticono smile
http://cursosabiertos.blogspot.com.es/.../introduccion-al...
Carl Reidsema I think
Miguel is correct in the MOOCs are a signpost along the way. I found George's
most recent blogs a few weeks ago but the link is on my laptop and I'm
currently doing my Sunday morning laying in with my iPad. I'll flick it to you
mañana. In his m...Ver másVer traducción
Donald Clark Of course MOOCs are just one tributary in online learning but I'll
stick to the baubles. We owe learners more than a diet of often dull lectures,
limited feedback and debt. I find the description of major areas of effort in
online learning a s 'baubles' beneath contempt.Ver traducción
Carl Reidsema Well Gee
Donald, didn't mean to inflame your ire. Apologies. What I was attempting to
convey is what I find equally contemptible but not enough that I would ever
label it as contemptible which is this curious belief that the solutions to
many of the problems in higher ed can and should be solved by technology. That
doesn't mean that I think someone who puts effort into technology is wasting
their time though. Far from it. For me MOOCs have been a God send because the
rush by university leaders to participate with MIT has given legitimacy and a
greater interest in the flipped classroom work that I'm doing here in
Australia. I run an on campus flipped class of 1200 students without a single
lecture by the way. This has led to me now being a director of an eLearning
centre which as you might imagine has a strong interest in technology. But I am
not that interested in technology for technology's sake and cannot help but
notice that it is far easier for me to synthesise a successful funding proposal
that is about technology than it is to do so if it were about students and
their learning. I call this the "machines that go ping!" phenomena
which I am happy to exploit but am unhappy that I have to.Ver traducción
Carl Reidsema This is the last posting that I recall from
George. I quite enjoyed it as I said. He was supposed to be the keynote speaker
at our Teaching and Learning Awards on the 2nd of November but was a no show
due to illness or family or something. http://www.elearnspace.org/blog/Ver traducción
I’ve been involved in educational technology since the
late 1990′s when I was at Red River College and involved in deploying the first
laptop program in Canada. Since that time, I’ve been involved in many
technology deployments in learning and in researching those deployments. Some have been
systems…
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Miguel Zapata-Ros Hello, it
dawns in Spain. Last night I was not in the discussion.
It is very interesting discussion about your education and technology. But my concern is not about her at this time. Not about Mr. Siemens.
The question is: There is a twig in this scheme, below:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/.../Cq4Pi4J1-zU/s1600/LPSS.jpg
Where it says xMOOC ---> EDX ---> dual layer courses
IT IS on this.
Something has happened? What happened?
My hypothesis is: EXD, Gates Foundation and Arlington attracted to the group (Siemens, Dragan, Dave et al) as a marketing operation. To redirect the flow from the cMOOC toward their new courses.
But Siemens et al were a kind of adornment. (Seehttp://redesabiertas.blogspot.com.es/.../la-evolucion-de... paragraph 6)
My interpretation is that SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.
And, as a reaction of defiance, Siemens has written the post "Goodbye Ed Tech. Hello something else."
It's just an exegesis. Do you think it is exaggerated?
I care a lot for my job.
Thanks and happy day
It is very interesting discussion about your education and technology. But my concern is not about her at this time. Not about Mr. Siemens.
The question is: There is a twig in this scheme, below:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/.../Cq4Pi4J1-zU/s1600/LPSS.jpg
Where it says xMOOC ---> EDX ---> dual layer courses
IT IS on this.
Something has happened? What happened?
My hypothesis is: EXD, Gates Foundation and Arlington attracted to the group (Siemens, Dragan, Dave et al) as a marketing operation. To redirect the flow from the cMOOC toward their new courses.
But Siemens et al were a kind of adornment. (Seehttp://redesabiertas.blogspot.com.es/.../la-evolucion-de... paragraph 6)
My interpretation is that SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.
And, as a reaction of defiance, Siemens has written the post "Goodbye Ed Tech. Hello something else."
It's just an exegesis. Do you think it is exaggerated?
I care a lot for my job.
Thanks and happy day
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